❌ Software Removal | DataCell, Orange Website #1919

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2020-05-14T23:29:36Z

niftylettuce commented

2020-05-14 23:29:36 +00:00

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Description

Both DataCell and Orange Website have severe flaws, from SSL issues to mailboxes that do not receive messages since they are not set up. These should be removed. Any service provider that has a contact form that doesn't go anywhere can't possibly be trusted. Furthermore any provider that has emails going out to customers shouldn't have images with missing links, or links to websites that have invalid SSL certificates with different hostnames. This is INSANE that these are listed here. Do you just list these providers without even testing them?

Why I am making the suggestion

I attempted to purchase dedicated servers from them, and issue after issue arose.

My connection with the software

I'm a customer attempting to get service.

I will keep the issue up-to-date if something I have said changes or I remember a connection with the software.

## Description Both DataCell and Orange Website have severe flaws, from SSL issues to mailboxes that do not receive messages since they are not set up. These should be removed. Any service provider that has a contact form that doesn't go anywhere can't possibly be trusted. Furthermore any provider that has emails going out to customers shouldn't have images with missing links, or links to websites that have invalid SSL certificates with different hostnames. This is INSANE that these are listed here. Do you just list these providers without even testing them? <img width="711" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-14 at 6 16 54 PM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/523141/81995703-a596fb80-9610-11ea-82e2-6533d0bc9a7a.png"> <img width="1070" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-14 at 4 53 26 PM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/523141/81995708-aaf44600-9610-11ea-8779-f3c42113f829.png"> <img width="405" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-14 at 4 42 35 PM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/523141/81995713-ad56a000-9610-11ea-8a05-8627d5e5c8da.png"> <img width="686" alt="Screen Shot 2020-05-14 at 4 42 26 PM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/523141/81995716-afb8fa00-9610-11ea-99ec-88434698b50e.png"> ## Why I am making the suggestion I attempted to purchase dedicated servers from them, and issue after issue arose. ## My connection with the software I'm a customer attempting to get service. - [X] I will keep the issue up-to-date if something I have said changes or I remember a connection with the software.

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ph00lt0 commented

2020-05-14 23:39:43 +00:00

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That is odd. Also the fact that they use Gmail is not very promising.

freddy-m commented

2020-05-15 11:20:51 +00:00

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Projects that get an A+ Score on SLLLabs might be worth a look. (OpenBSD Amsterdam comes to mind).

Projects that get an [A+ Score on SLLLabs](https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=openbsd.amsterdam) might be worth a look. ([OpenBSD Amsterdam](https://openbsd.amsterdam/) comes to mind).

niftylettuce commented

2020-05-15 15:47:20 +00:00

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@freddy-m I don't think so due to the country's privacy laws and being Member of Nine Eyes and Fourteen Eyes Alliances

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freddy-m commented

2020-05-15 19:12:35 +00:00

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#1365, #1043 and #934 might also be relevant. #1259 covers the same issue

blacklight447 commented

2020-05-27 12:54:47 +00:00

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I do have to mention that the provider page was added back when privacytools was a lot smaller, we have been planning to redo it with an added criteria list, for now, i think it would be best to remove these till we have the new page set up, @privacytools/editorial

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shortenjukebox commented

2020-06-12 21:05:01 +00:00

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Covered DataCell’s seemingly negligent ownership in #1949. The CEO runs two large-scale ISPs and another hosting provider, with hardly any known personnel to support all these businesses. He also has not expressed much concern for DataCell in the past few years. It did host Wikileaks for some period of time, but that likely ended 4-7 years ago.

niftylettuce commented

2020-07-17 14:46:58 +00:00

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Thank you @freddy-m and @dngray

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Reference: privacyguides/privacytools.io#1919