Mention discontinuation uMatrix, mention uBlock advanced mode #2058

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dngray merged 3 commits from pr-ublock_advanced into master 2020-09-25 15:28:17 +00:00
dngray commented 2020-09-21 05:10:05 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

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Resolves: https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/2057

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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) approved these changes 2020-09-21 06:13:08 +00:00
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LGTM, except that the descriptions are a bit of wall of text especially on mobile and I wonder if some line changes would make it more pleasant to look at.

LGTM, except that the descriptions are a bit of wall of text especially on mobile and I wonder if some line changes would make it more pleasant to look at.
freddy-m (Migrated from github.com) approved these changes 2020-09-23 09:30:15 +00:00
3k2 commented 2020-10-06 12:05:41 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

So what about noscript? far as I can tell it was removed due to fact that umatrix does the same thing now that umatrix isn't being maintained anymore is it good idea to add it back or not?

So what about noscript? far as I can tell it was removed due to fact that umatrix does the same thing now that umatrix isn't being maintained anymore is it good idea to add it back or not?
dngray commented 2020-10-07 04:45:09 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

So what about noscript? far as I can tell it was removed due to fact that umatrix does the same thing now that umatrix isn't being maintained anymore is it good idea to add it back or not?

uBlock advanced can do the same as NoScript, you can disable JavaScript and then enable it for various things.

See Advanced mode with dynamic filtering. Take a look the differences between easy mode, medium mode, or hard mode.

> So what about noscript? far as I can tell it was removed due to fact that umatrix does the same thing now that umatrix isn't being maintained anymore is it good idea to add it back or not? uBlock advanced can do the same as NoScript, you can disable JavaScript and then enable it for various things. See [Advanced mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Advanced-user-features) with [dynamic filtering](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Advanced-user-features). Take a look the differences between [easy mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-easy-mode), [medium mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode), or [hard mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-hard-mode).
dngray commented 2020-10-07 05:18:09 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

One thing to add, uBlock currently works with Fenix (so if you use Firefox on Android), whereas uBlock does not.

One thing to add, uBlock currently works with Fenix (so if you use Firefox on Android), whereas uBlock does not.
3k2 commented 2020-10-07 13:10:12 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

So what about noscript? far as I can tell it was removed due to fact that umatrix does the same thing now that umatrix isn't being maintained anymore is it good idea to add it back or not?

uBlock advanced can do the same as NoScript, you can disable JavaScript and then enable it for various things.

See Advanced mode with dynamic filtering. Take a look the differences between easy mode, medium mode, or hard mode.

oh yes I forgot about that sorry! I feel kinda sad that umatrix isn't maintained anymore but I suppose it makes sense since ublock can do most of the things what umatrix did. So there's no point maintaining both which essentially do same.

> > So what about noscript? far as I can tell it was removed due to fact that umatrix does the same thing now that umatrix isn't being maintained anymore is it good idea to add it back or not? > > uBlock advanced can do the same as NoScript, you can disable JavaScript and then enable it for various things. > > See [Advanced mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Advanced-user-features) with [dynamic filtering](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Advanced-user-features). Take a look the differences between [easy mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-easy-mode), [medium mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode), or [hard mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-hard-mode). oh yes I forgot about that sorry! I feel kinda sad that umatrix isn't maintained anymore but I suppose it makes sense since ublock can do most of the things what umatrix did. So there's no point maintaining both which essentially do same.
dngray commented 2020-10-07 16:07:28 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

So there's no point maintaining both which essentially do same

That's pretty much what the author said (Raymond Hill) said: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uMatrix-issues/issues/291#issuecomment-694988696

> So there's no point maintaining both which essentially do same That's pretty much what the author said (Raymond Hill) said: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uMatrix-issues/issues/291#issuecomment-694988696
unbranched commented 2020-10-19 10:58:36 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

In no way uBlock can replace uMatrix, or I'm missing some functionality:
-I set uBlock in advanced mode to block everything by default globally except images
-I visit a website that doesn't display correctly because of blocked css/third party images
-I allow the relevant domain

Now the website works, but this implies enabled cosmetic elements and everything else for that domain, including scripts. What if I just want to display the website correctly while not running scripts? I can't.

I have no other choice than using ublock+noscript .

In no way uBlock can replace uMatrix, or I'm missing some functionality: -I set uBlock in advanced mode to block everything by default globally except images -I visit a website that doesn't display correctly because of blocked css/third party images -I allow the relevant domain Now the website works, but this implies enabled cosmetic elements and everything else for that domain, including scripts. What if I just want to display the website correctly while not running scripts? I can't. I have no other choice than using ublock+noscript .
justjosias commented 2020-10-20 09:07:33 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

There's nothing to worry about for now. It will be a while before uMatrix becomes outdated to the point it doesn't make sense to use it.

There's nothing to worry about for now. It will be a while before uMatrix becomes outdated to the point it doesn't make sense to use it.
lynn-stephenson commented 2020-10-22 19:51:46 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

We have no intention of recommending EOL software. Even if there are no huge issues with uMatrix.

We have no intention of recommending EOL software. Even if there are no huge issues with uMatrix.
computeristic commented 2020-12-30 15:46:46 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

@unbranched you can allow/block specific elements (images/CSS/DOM/scripts...) on any domain you visit using the logger on ublock. Check this page on the wiki and pay special attention to the 'Dynamic URL filtering rules'.

@unbranched you can allow/block specific elements (images/CSS/DOM/scripts...) on any domain you visit using the logger on ublock. Check [this](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/The-logger) page on the wiki and pay special attention to the 'Dynamic URL filtering rules'.
unbranched commented 2021-01-20 08:40:11 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

@computeristic Thanks, I missed that feature. That's kind of tedious though, compared to uMatrix.
EDIT: wait, is there a config syntax to make it block eg. all scripts by default? That would be awesome.

@computeristic Thanks, I missed that feature. That's kind of tedious though, compared to uMatrix. EDIT: wait, is there a config syntax to make it block eg. all scripts by default? That would be awesome.
gary-host-laptop commented 2021-01-20 15:55:05 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

wait, is there a config syntax to make it block eg. all scripts by default? That would be awesome.

Yes, you need do block first and third party scripts if you want to block all by default, although I recommend you to only block third one since otherwise you won't be able to load any website properly, and blocking javascript by default already does that.

Screenshot from 2021-01-20 12-51-09

> wait, is there a config syntax to make it block eg. all scripts by default? That would be awesome. Yes, you need do block first and third party scripts if you want to block all by default, although I recommend you to only block third one since otherwise you won't be able to load any website properly, and blocking javascript by default already does that. ![Screenshot from 2021-01-20 12-51-09](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/63723030/105200254-67969380-5b1e-11eb-911b-ed0674e6bbb6.png)
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