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Add Team chat section #1067

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Mikaela commented 2019-07-31 12:18:37 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Resolves: #1065
Resolves: #999

Preview: https://deploy-preview-1067--privacytools-io.netlify.com/software/teamchat/

## Description Resolves: #1065 Resolves: #999 Preview: https://deploy-preview-1067--privacytools-io.netlify.com/software/teamchat/
blacklight447 (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-31 12:18:37 +00:00
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Deploy preview for privacytools-io ready!

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Deploy preview for *privacytools-io* ready! Built with commit a07057cc4419e981f34b96f0d1179d2062e187ee https://deploy-preview-1067--privacytools-io.netlify.com
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-31 12:35:43 +00:00
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I just wanted an initial version out to see that I am doing something correctly, so this is heavy WIP.

I just wanted an initial version out to see that I am doing something correctly, so this is heavy WIP.
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<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/calendar-contacts/"><i class="fas fa-calendar fa-fw"></i> Calendar/Contacts Sync Tools</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/notebooks/"><i class="far fa-sticky-note fa-fw"></i> Digital Notebook</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/#messaging"><i class="fas fa-random fa-fw"></i> Email Alternatives</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/"><i class="fas fa-envelope fa-fw"></i> Email Clients</a>
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:30:50 +00:00

Any icon suggestions?

Any icon suggestions?
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:31:45 +00:00

I forgot that Discord exists and typing this comment I also remember Microsoft Teams being a thing. I think the biggest concerns for FOSS projects/teams are Slack and Discord though and I am sure both have nice links.

I forgot that Discord exists and typing this comment I also remember Microsoft Teams being a thing. I think the biggest concerns for FOSS projects/teams are Slack and Discord though and I am sure both have nice links.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:32:43 +00:00

This needs attention as I am not sure any team chat is designed with privacy in mind as I recall reading that the reason Slack hasn't implemented E2EE is due to letting "your boss read your PMs".

This needs attention as I am not sure any team chat is designed with privacy in mind as I recall reading that the reason Slack hasn't implemented E2EE is due to letting "your boss read your PMs".
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:32:58 +00:00

Federation is also experimental.

Federation is also experimental.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:33:04 +00:00

TODO

TODO
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:33:55 +00:00

Obviously TODO, I just wanted a preview build out and me working on this visible to everyone.

Obviously TODO, I just wanted a preview build out and me working on this visible to everyone.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:34:09 +00:00

TODO, is it OK to use existing topics?

TODO, is it OK to use existing topics?
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:34:42 +00:00

#1066 has links on the requests for E2EE, but I am not sure it's a big priority for businesses.

#1066 has links on the requests for E2EE, but I am not sure it's a big priority for businesses.
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title="Rocket.chat"
image="/assets/img/tools/rocket.chat.png"
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:33:15 +00:00

TODO

TODO
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{% include cardv2.html
title="Keybase"
image="/assets/img/tools/keybase.png"
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:33:27 +00:00

TODO

TODO
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:34:58 +00:00

Better ideas wanted?

Better ideas wanted?
Mikaela commented 2019-07-31 12:41:38 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Big thanks to @ghbjklhv1 for showing me how to add sections in #1064

Big thanks to @ghbjklhv1 for showing me how to add sections in #1064
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-31 12:52:05 +00:00
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A little searching and I seem to be using GItHub as my todo list.

Now I need lunch and I am not sure if I am continuing this PR today.

A little searching and I seem to be using GItHub as my todo list. Now I need lunch and I am not sure if I am continuing this PR today.
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:46:19 +00:00
* https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzj5xn/why-slack-doesnt-have-end-to-end-encryption-boss * https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8q89ba/dear-slack-please-add-otr
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:47:11 +00:00

for Discord I couldn't find more than https://discordapp.com/privacy

* https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/17/no_slack_for_open_sourcers/ * https://drewdevault.com/2015/11/01/Please-stop-using-slack.html for Discord I couldn't find more than https://discordapp.com/privacy
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:48:12 +00:00

Typo.

Typo.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:50:36 +00:00

Question: who is our target audience? I guess I am going by assumption that it's people who run open source teams (community managers?) and people who care and are unhappy with Slack or Discord?

Keybase advertises themselves for everyone and one audience that is also on my mind are language learners whom I only know existing in IRC (bigger languages), Discord (a lot of languages) and Slack (one team I found via Duolingo and keep forgetting to login).

Question: who is our target audience? I guess I am going by assumption that it's people who run open source teams (community managers?) and people who care and are unhappy with Slack or Discord? Keybase advertises themselves for everyone and one audience that is also on my mind are language learners whom I only know existing in IRC (bigger languages), Discord (a lot of languages) and Slack (one team I found via Duolingo and keep forgetting to login).
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:51:32 +00:00

Oh and someone I chatted with IM apps said that they would be a bit wary of Rocket.chat due to it not being designed to federate and that possibly leaving more room for mistakes.

Oh and someone I chatted with IM apps said that they would be a bit wary of Rocket.chat due to it not being designed to federate and that possibly leaving more room for mistakes.
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title="Keybase"
image="/assets/img/tools/keybase.png"
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 12:47:36 +00:00

Note to self: reread #740

Note to self: reread #740
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-31 13:17:27 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 13:17:27 +00:00

Richard Stallman offers us the following:

via Matrix

Richard Stallman offers us the following: * https://stallman.org/discord.html * https://stallman.org/slack.html * https://stallman.org/microsoft.html - no mention of Microsoft Teams though via Matrix
Mikaela commented 2019-07-31 13:26:33 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Icon sources:

Icon sources: * https://github.com/keybase/client/blob/master/media/icons/icon-keybase-logo-windows-64.png * https://rocket.chat/press (Logos & Assets)
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-31 13:39:59 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 13:39:59 +00:00

The existing thread was https://forum.privacytools.io/t/what-do-you-think-about-keybase-io/920?u=mikaela and I didn't feel comfortable reusing it.

The existing thread was https://forum.privacytools.io/t/what-do-you-think-about-keybase-io/920?u=mikaela and I didn't feel comfortable reusing it.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-31 13:42:05 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-07-31 13:42:05 +00:00

Experimental --> closed source server? centralized?

And I think I am out of time and cannot think of this further today.

Experimental --> closed source server? centralized? And I think I am out of time and cannot think of this further today.
Mikaela commented 2019-08-01 08:22:04 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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TODO: I have forgotten the source code file.

TODO: I have forgotten the source code file.
Mikaela commented 2019-08-01 14:08:26 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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TODO: audits, Keybase https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1071

TODO: audits, Keybase https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1071
ghbjklhv1 (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-01 19:02:52 +00:00
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My go-to is generally Matrix. Although, I haven't used it RocketChat seems like a good alternative if it is truly FLOSS.

I believe GNU also has some recommended packages, I'll see if I can find them.
Edit: Jami and GNU Mailman, although they aren't really Slack alternatives they are still useful.

My go-to is generally Matrix. Although, I haven't used it RocketChat seems like a good alternative if it is truly FLOSS. I believe GNU also has some [recommended packages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GNU_packages), I'll see if I can find them. Edit: [Jami](https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami_(software)) and [GNU Mailman](https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Mailman), although they aren't really Slack alternatives they are still useful.
Mikaela commented 2019-08-01 19:37:14 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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My go-to is generally Matrix. Although, I haven't used it RocketChat seems like a good alternative if it is truly FLOSS.

Currently it has too many issues to be listed and it's in process of getting delisted from the instant messengers page.

I believe GNU also has some recommended packages, I'll see if I can find them.
Edit: Jami and GNU Mailman, although they aren't really Slack alternatives they are still useful.

We seem to list Jami as a VoIP app at https://www.privacytools.io/software/voip/ and GNU Mailman is a mailing list software (or am I confusing it to something similar?) and due to email being bad with privacy, I wouldn't include it.

> My go-to is generally Matrix. Although, I haven't used it RocketChat seems like a good alternative if it is truly FLOSS. Currently it has too many issues to be listed and it's in process of getting delisted from the instant messengers page. > I believe GNU also has some recommended packages, I'll see if I can find them. Edit: Jami and GNU Mailman, although they aren't really Slack alternatives they are still useful. We seem to list Jami as a VoIP app at https://www.privacytools.io/software/voip/ and GNU Mailman is a mailing list software (or am I confusing it to something similar?) and due to email being bad with privacy, I wouldn't include it.
ghbjklhv1 commented 2019-08-03 00:38:10 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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email being bad with privacy

TBF it isn't much if any worse than many of the recommended instant messengers.
Email can now be encrypted fairly easily and has newer protocols like Darkmail.

Plus there is the Mixmaster anonymous remailer and whatnot:

From an ease of use perspective, it ain't great.
But it can be configured to work well.

Edit: Even the subject now has protocols for E2E, they just might not be popular yet.

> email being bad with privacy TBF it isn't much if any worse than many of the recommended instant messengers. Email can now be encrypted fairly easily and has newer protocols like [Darkmail](https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Mail_Alliance). Plus there is the Mixmaster anonymous remailer and whatnot: - https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixmaster_anonymous_remailer - Mixmaster - https://www.mixminion.net/ - Mixminion From an ease of use perspective, it ain't great. But it can be configured to work well. **Edit**: Even the subject now has protocols for E2E, they just might not be popular yet.
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-03 05:29:13 +00:00
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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-03 05:29:13 +00:00

for Discord I couldn't find more than https://discordapp.com/privacy

From Discord, 2 years ago:

E2E encryption is not a focus nor currently planned...

discord-e2ee

> for Discord I couldn't find more than https://discordapp.com/privacy [From Discord, 2 years ago](https://web.archive.org/web/20171029114027/https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/17094256-implement-whispersystems-encryption-for-voice-and): > E2E encryption is not a focus nor currently planned... ![discord-e2ee](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1514352/62407909-9b3ed000-b5af-11e9-83f2-ddba095e4370.png)
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-03 05:33:49 +00:00
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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-03 05:33:49 +00:00

Question: who is our target audience? I guess I am going by assumption that it's people who run open source teams (community managers?) and people who care and are unhappy with Slack or Discord?

Great question -- I'd agree with your assumption 👍

> Question: who is our target audience? I guess I am going by assumption that it's people who run open source teams (community managers?) and people who care and are unhappy with Slack or Discord? Great question -- I'd agree with your assumption :+1:
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-03 05:37:12 +00:00
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<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/calendar-contacts/"><i class="fas fa-calendar fa-fw"></i> Calendar/Contacts Sync Tools</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/notebooks/"><i class="far fa-sticky-note fa-fw"></i> Digital Notebook</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/#messaging"><i class="fas fa-random fa-fw"></i> Email Alternatives</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/"><i class="fas fa-envelope fa-fw"></i> Email Clients</a>
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-03 05:37:11 +00:00

group-chat

How about fa-comments?

<i class="fas fa-comments"></i>
![group-chat](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1514352/62407976-a5150300-b5b0-11e9-9cc4-e182995c4160.png) How about [fa-comments](https://fontawesome.com/icons/comments?style=solid)? ```html <i class="fas fa-comments"></i> ```
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-03 05:38:48 +00:00
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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-03 05:38:48 +00:00

https://forums.rocket.chat/ ?

https://forums.rocket.chat/ ?
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-03 05:43:40 +00:00
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{% include cardv2.html
title="Keybase"
image="/assets/img/tools/keybase.png"
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-03 05:43:40 +00:00

Found a higher quality image here:

keybase1

Found a higher quality image [here](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keybase_logo_official.svg): ![keybase1](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1514352/62408038-9713b200-b5b1-11e9-9632-3c2d74f52986.png)
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-03 05:48:28 +00:00
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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-03 05:48:28 +00:00

Hmm... so here's the IM description:

Discover secure and private ways to message others online without letting any third parties read your messages.

This is a bit boring but consistent?

Discover secure and private ways to message your team online without letting any third parties read your messages.

Hmm... so here's the IM description: > Discover secure and private ways to message others online without letting any third parties read your messages. This is a bit boring but consistent? > Discover secure and private ways to message your team online without letting any third parties read your messages.
Perelandra0x309 commented 2019-08-03 11:20:01 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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We seem to list Jami as a VOIP

https://git.ring.cx/savoirfairelinux/ring-project/wikis/features/All-features-by-client
According to this Jami does not have group chat. I don't use Jami so can't confirm right now.

> We seem to list Jami as a VOIP https://git.ring.cx/savoirfairelinux/ring-project/wikis/features/All-features-by-client According to this Jami does not have group chat. I don't use Jami so can't confirm right now.
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jonah reviewed 2019-08-03 15:47:07 +00:00
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<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/calendar-contacts/"><i class="fas fa-calendar fa-fw"></i> Calendar/Contacts Sync Tools</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/notebooks/"><i class="far fa-sticky-note fa-fw"></i> Digital Notebook</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/#messaging"><i class="fas fa-random fa-fw"></i> Email Alternatives</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/"><i class="fas fa-envelope fa-fw"></i> Email Clients</a>
jonah commented 2019-08-03 15:47:07 +00:00

I'd rather change the IM icon from fa-telegram-plane (which makes no sense as an icon) to fa-comments and use something like this for team chat:

image 
<i class="fas fa-users fa-fw"></i>
I'd rather change the IM icon from `fa-telegram-plane` (which makes no sense as an icon) to `fa-comments` and use something like this for team chat: <img width="80" alt="image" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3637842/62413980-b3c4df80-b5db-11e9-9df9-04b64583b0e5.png"> ``` <i class="fas fa-users fa-fw"></i> ```
jonah reviewed 2019-08-03 15:49:27 +00:00
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jonah commented 2019-08-03 15:49:26 +00:00

The server side of Keybase runs on proprietary code and is centralized?

`The server side of Keybase runs on proprietary code and is centralized`?
jonah reviewed 2019-08-03 15:50:34 +00:00
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jonah commented 2019-08-03 15:50:34 +00:00

Discover secure and private ways to communicate with your team online without letting any third parties read your messages.

> Discover secure and private ways to communicate with your team online without letting any third parties read your messages.
jonah reviewed 2019-08-03 15:53:04 +00:00
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{% include cardv2.html
title="Keybase"
image="/assets/img/tools/keybase.png"
jonah commented 2019-08-03 15:53:03 +00:00

FYI we don't use SVGs (for some security reason apparently, I think issues with Tor Browser?). So all our images are kinda poor quality on HiDPI displays :/

FYI we don't use SVGs (for some security reason apparently, I think issues with Tor Browser?). So all our images are kinda poor quality on HiDPI displays :/
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-03 16:04:44 +00:00
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title="Keybase"
image="/assets/img/tools/keybase.png"
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-03 16:04:44 +00:00

Ah, gotcha - okay, we can probably than just convert it to a png then.

Ah, gotcha - okay, we can probably than just convert it to a png then.
jonah commented 2019-08-03 19:14:54 +00:00
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Thinking about @five-c-d's https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/999#issuecomment-513569992, would it perhaps make more sense to list Team Chat as a separate section on the existing Instant Messengers page? Or merge IM, VoIP, and this category into one "Communication Tools" page (or something) with separate subheadings for each of them?

Thinking about @five-c-d's https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/999#issuecomment-513569992, would it perhaps make more sense to list Team Chat as a separate section on the existing Instant Messengers page? Or merge IM, VoIP, and this category into one "Communication Tools" page (or something) with separate subheadings for each of them?
nitrohorse commented 2019-08-03 19:45:27 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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@JonahAragon I can see having sub-sections under a "Communication Tools" umbrella page being overall more helpful and easier to navigate and compare/contrast. I like that idea.

@JonahAragon I can see having sub-sections under a "Communication Tools" umbrella page being overall more helpful and easier to navigate and compare/contrast. I like that idea.
Mikaela commented 2019-08-05 11:36:44 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Sounds good to me, that page would just be {% include sections/teamchat.html %} for the separate categories?

Sounds good to me, that page would just be ` {% include sections/teamchat.html %}` for the separate categories?
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-05 11:40:44 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-05 11:40:43 +00:00

No, it's our forum thread https://forum.privacytools.io/t/discussion-rocket-chat/1223

No, it's our forum thread https://forum.privacytools.io/t/discussion-rocket-chat/1223
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-05 11:47:19 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-05 11:47:19 +00:00

I applied your suggestion, but Blah blah blah needs to change before resolving this conversation.

I applied your suggestion, but Blah blah blah needs to change before resolving this conversation.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-05 11:48:23 +00:00
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image="/assets/img/tools/keybase.png"
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-05 11:48:23 +00:00

Done, I hope it looks fine for you

Done, I hope it looks fine for you
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-05 16:34:53 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-05 16:34:52 +00:00

RocketChat stores the quasi-end2end keys, server-side. And does not implement perfect forward secrecy. More like protonmail's security-model than like signalapp. RocketChat/Rocket.Chat#9999 (comment) Basically, if your decrypt-passphrase is every compromised (either by a trojan or a compromised server... or just, by you logging in from a browser or OS that is vulnerable to the badguys) then the badguys get your entire messaging-history, and that of every team you are on, correct?

> RocketChat stores the quasi-end2end keys, server-side. And does not implement perfect forward secrecy. More like protonmail's security-model than like signalapp. RocketChat/Rocket.Chat#9999 (comment) Basically, if your decrypt-passphrase is every compromised (either by a trojan or a compromised server... or just, by you logging in from a browser or OS that is vulnerable to the badguys) then the badguys get your entire messaging-history, and that of every team you are on, correct? * https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/999#issuecomment-518303585
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-05 16:46:02 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-05 16:42:35 +00:00

Suggestion:

Team chat applications where everything is end-to-end encrypted or under control of your team administrator.

Suggestion: > Team chat applications where everything is end-to-end encrypted *or* under control of your team administrator.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-05 16:45:53 +00:00

If your team is currently using service like [Discord] or [Slack], you should pick an alternative here.

Links either: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/17/no_slack_for_open_sourcers/ or https://drewdevault.com/2015/11/01/Please-stop-using-slack.html (I kind of prefer this one)

Discord: https://web.archive.org/web/20171029114027/https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/17094256-implement-whispersystems-encryption-for-voice-and (I prefer) or https://stallman.org/discord.html ?

> If your team is currently using service like [Discord] or [Slack], you should pick an alternative here. Links either: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/17/no_slack_for_open_sourcers/ or https://drewdevault.com/2015/11/01/Please-stop-using-slack.html (I kind of prefer this one) Discord: https://web.archive.org/web/20171029114027/https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/17094256-implement-whispersystems-encryption-for-voice-and (I prefer) or https://stallman.org/discord.html ?
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-09 17:26:52 +00:00
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TODO: delist Mattermost.

TODO: delist Mattermost.
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-09 17:26:39 +00:00

https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1066#issuecomment-519922407 - Mattermost should be delisted.

https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1066#issuecomment-519922407 - Mattermost should be delisted.
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-10 00:57:01 +00:00
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<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/calendar-contacts/"><i class="fas fa-calendar fa-fw"></i> Calendar/Contacts Sync Tools</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/notebooks/"><i class="far fa-sticky-note fa-fw"></i> Digital Notebook</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/#messaging"><i class="fas fa-random fa-fw"></i> Email Alternatives</a>
<a class="dropdown-item" href="/software/email/"><i class="fas fa-envelope fa-fw"></i> Email Clients</a>
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-10 00:57:00 +00:00

Missing a space here: </i> Team

Missing a space here: ```</i> Team```
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-10 00:58:47 +00:00
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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-10 00:58:47 +00:00

Link is currently broken, just needs to be updated to

<a href="https://keybase.io/docs-assets/blog/NCC_Group_Keybase_KB2018_Public_Report_2019-02-27_v1.3.pdf">indepedently audited (PDF)</a>
Link is currently broken, just needs to be updated to ```html <a href="https://keybase.io/docs-assets/blog/NCC_Group_Keybase_KB2018_Public_Report_2019-02-27_v1.3.pdf">indepedently audited (PDF)</a> ```
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-10 01:00:19 +00:00
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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-10 01:00:19 +00:00

Small grammatical suggestion:

If your project is currently using currently uses a team chat like...

Small grammatical suggestion: > If your project ~~is currently using~~ currently uses a team chat like...
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-10 01:00:54 +00:00
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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-10 01:00:54 +00:00

Missing a space here: </i> Team

Missing a space here: ```</i> Team```
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-10 01:02:13 +00:00
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Couple of small suggestions but otherwise LGTM

Couple of small suggestions but otherwise LGTM
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-10 11:23:39 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-10 11:23:39 +00:00

Won't that break it due to being in the card? I removed the backslashes though.

Won't that break it due to being in the card? I removed the backslashes though.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-10 13:44:42 +00:00
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-10 13:44:41 +00:00

Apparently not.

Apparently not.
Mikaela commented 2019-08-10 13:53:31 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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I realized that I had forgotten Wire Pro entirely, but I don't think it can be immediately boosted to recommended as I am under the impression that no one has experience with Wire Pro. I think it's also a good excuse to create the worth mentioning section.

I realized that I had forgotten Wire Pro entirely, but I don't think it can be immediately boosted to recommended as I am under the impression that no one has experience with Wire Pro. I think it's also a good excuse to create the worth mentioning section.
nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) approved these changes 2019-08-10 15:15:01 +00:00
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LGTM

LGTM
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-08-11 14:59:41 +00:00
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<h1 id="teamchat" class="anchor"><a href="#teamchat"><i class="fas fa-link anchor-icon"></i></a> Team chat applications where everything is end-to-end encrypted or under the control of your team administrator</h1>
<div class="alert alert-warning" role="alert">
<strong>If your project currently uses a team chat like <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20171029114027/https://feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/17094256-implement-whispersystems-encryption-for-voice-and">Discord</a> or <a href="https://drewdevault.com/2015/11/01/Please-stop-using-slack.html">Slack</a> you should pick an alternative here.</strong>
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented 2019-08-11 14:59:41 +00:00

Potential alternative link: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html ? However it's difficult to open with IPFS Companion for some reason.

Potential alternative link: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html ? However it's difficult to open with IPFS Companion for some reason.
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