Add Silence #634

2018-11-27T00:53:13Z

gjhklfdsa commented

2018-11-27 00:53:13 +00:00

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Description

Add Silence.im to Encrypted Instant Messenger Worth Mentioning list.

What is Silence? Silence is a application to encrypt SMS/MMS similar to PGP/GPG. It is based on the Signal encryption protocol and currently supports Android and most Android forks like CopperheadOS and Replicant.

Resolves: #none

## Description Add Silence.im to Encrypted Instant Messenger Worth Mentioning list. **What is Silence**? Silence is a application to encrypt SMS/MMS similar to PGP/GPG. It is based on the Signal encryption protocol and currently supports Android and most Android forks like CopperheadOS and Replicant. Resolves: #none

ghost commented

2018-11-27 05:23:37 +00:00

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Sounds interesting.

@Vincevrp thoughts?

Sounds interesting. @Vincevrp thoughts?

Vincevrp (Migrated from github.com) reviewed

2018-12-19 12:42:40 +00:00

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Quote from the Silence repository

TextSecure removed for a variety of reasons

This article mentions:

Users need to manually initiate a “key exchange”.

I assume that this is still the case?

SMS and MMS are a security disaster, they leak all possible metadata 100% of the time to thousands of cellular carriers worldwide.

This can't be avoided.

Given our 'Quality over Quantity' rule, I think adding Silence is unnecessary. Open Whisper Systems moved away from SMS for a reason.

Quote from the [Silence repository](https://github.com/SilenceIM/Silence) > TextSecure removed [for a variety of reasons](https://whispersystems.org/blog/goodbye-encrypted-sms/) This article mentions: > 1. Users need to manually initiate a “key exchange”. I assume that this is still the case? > 2. SMS and MMS are a security disaster, they leak all possible metadata 100% of the time to thousands of cellular carriers worldwide. This can't be avoided. Given our 'Quality over Quantity' rule, I think adding Silence is unnecessary. Open Whisper Systems moved away from SMS for a reason.

ghost commented

2018-12-19 13:03:32 +00:00

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I agree.

ghost commented

2019-02-18 00:01:57 +00:00

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May I add that the idea is not to promote SMS/MMS over anything, but to say that In case you really have no other alternatives, but to use SMS/MMS, then use these apps (Silence and perhaps some others). After all encrypted SMS/MMS is better than non-encrypted SMS/MMS, no?

May I add that the idea is not to promote SMS/MMS over anything, but to say that _In case you really have no other alternatives, but to use SMS/MMS, then use these apps (Silence and perhaps some others)_. After all encrypted SMS/MMS is better than non-encrypted SMS/MMS, no?

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Atavic commented

2019-04-19 21:03:31 +00:00

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SMS are security-wise a disaster, like emails that leak metadata. If someone has to use SMS, then signal seems a less evil choice (into an SMS disastrous situaton).

ghost commented

2019-04-19 22:46:36 +00:00

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then signal seems a less evil choice (into an SMS disastrous situaton).

Why? As far as I know, Signal sends regular SMS as regular SMS, no encryption, nothing.

> then signal seems a less evil choice (into an SMS disastrous situaton). Why? As far as I know, Signal sends regular SMS as regular SMS, no encryption, nothing.

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Atavic commented

2019-04-19 22:51:35 +00:00

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Obviously, I meant Silence.

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Reference: privacyguides/privacytools.io#634