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Recommend Matrix instead of Riot #1048

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David-Beetle commented 2019-07-24 21:17:37 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Description: Recommend Matrix instead of Riot
Why?: Riot isn't the only Matrix client. Others may offer better usability, like CLI access.

**Description**: Recommend Matrix instead of Riot **Why?**: Riot isn't the only Matrix client. Others may offer better usability, like CLI access.
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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) requested changes 2019-07-24 21:51:04 +00:00
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In my opinion there should be an actual client to recommend instead of just the protocol as a non-technical user won't understand what to do with it.

In my opinion there should be an actual client to recommend instead of just the protocol as a non-technical user won't understand what to do with it.
Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) requested changes 2019-07-24 21:52:20 +00:00
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In my opinion there should be an actual client to recommend instead of just the protocol as a non-technical user won't understand what to do with it.

In my opinion there should be an actual client to recommend instead of just the protocol as a non-technical user won't understand what to do with it.
David-Beetle commented 2019-07-24 21:56:50 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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@Mikaela It is very similar to how we recommend XMPP.

I still recommend Riot and Weechat in the description. :)

@Mikaela It is very similar to how we recommend XMPP. I still recommend Riot and Weechat in the description. :)
Mikaela commented 2019-07-24 22:05:31 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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I had to check how the XMPP recommendation is currently at https://www.privacytools.io/software/im/

Screenshot_2019-07-24 Instant Messaging privacytools io

I guess XMPP should be a link, but there are clients clearly mentioned while the quick glance at this PR I didn't see any clients.

I don't support listing WeeChat, because it's primarily IRC client and the Matrix support is a script that AFAIK isn't even in the official scripts repo, if it was a plugin, it would be almost equal to IRC and I would be open to listing it as a plugin, but currently it would be "for advanced users only" and that section doesn't exist with instant messengers at this time.

I had to check how the XMPP recommendation is currently at https://www.privacytools.io/software/im/ ![Screenshot_2019-07-24 Instant Messaging privacytools io](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/831184/61831921-eabe2700-ae5e-11e9-9232-866fb2f11a58.png) I guess XMPP should be a link, but there are clients clearly mentioned while the quick glance at this PR I didn't see any clients. I don't support listing WeeChat, because it's primarily IRC client and the Matrix support is a script that AFAIK isn't even in [the official scripts repo](https://github.com/weechat/scripts), if it was a plugin, it would be almost equal to IRC and I would be open to listing it as a plugin, but currently it would be "for advanced users only" and that section doesn't exist with instant messengers at this time.
David-Beetle commented 2019-07-30 00:59:35 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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@Mikaela I personally like Weechat. However, if I'm the only one with this perspective I see no reason for it not to be removed.

@Mikaela I personally like Weechat. However, if I'm the only one with this perspective I see no reason for it not to be removed.
Mikaela commented 2019-07-30 11:22:55 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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I personally like Weechat. However, if I'm the only one with this perspective I see no reason for it not to be removed.

I am fed up with the discussion whether or not WeeChat is a Matrix protocol client or a IRC protocol client, so I have asked authoritative source about this to end these discussions. https://github.com/weechat/weechat/issues/1386

> I personally like Weechat. However, if I'm the only one with this perspective I see no reason for it not to be removed. I am fed up with the discussion whether or not WeeChat is a Matrix protocol client or a IRC protocol client, so I have asked authoritative source about this to end these discussions. https://github.com/weechat/weechat/issues/1386
Mikaela commented 2019-07-30 11:41:41 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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I got the impression that WeeChat does not support Matrix officially.

EDIT: https://github.com/weechat/weechat/issues/1386#issuecomment-516384275 also has an explicit request from author of the newer WeeChat Matrix script to not recommend it.

I got the impression that WeeChat does not support Matrix officially. EDIT: https://github.com/weechat/weechat/issues/1386#issuecomment-516384275 also has an explicit request from author of the newer WeeChat Matrix script to not recommend it.
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