Browser Addons: Add Snowflake #1040

jonah · 2019-07-21T16:19:34Z

nitrohorse commented

2019-07-21 16:19:34 +00:00

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Description

Resolves: https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1039

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## Description Resolves: https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1039 ## Screenshot ![snowflake-screen](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1514352/61593757-2f359280-abd3-11e9-9ca1-e6d47a15b0c6.png)

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 16:20:19 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 16:20:19 +00:00

Need a forum link before this can be merged.

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 16:27:08 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 16:27:07 +00:00

I'm also realizing that the browser icons aren't selectable (maybe they should be?) so I'll remove the firefox and chrome links.

Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) requested changes 2019-07-21 16:40:05 +00:00

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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 16:38:28 +00:00

https://forum.privacytools.io/t/discussion-snowflake/1146 assuming there is no special magic in them

Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 16:40:00 +00:00

Snowflake Snowflake is a system to defeat internet censorship. People who are censored can use Snowflake to access the internet. Their connection goes through Snowflake proxies, which are run by volunteers. If your internet access is not censored, you should consider installing the Snowflake extension to help users in censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours.

I think this explanation should say more clearly that it's directly associated with Tor and lets users for whom Tor is blocked access the Tor network. And maybe there would also need to be a mention that it may use bandwidth?

> Snowflake Snowflake is a system to defeat internet censorship. People who are censored can use Snowflake to access the internet. Their connection goes through Snowflake proxies, which are run by volunteers. If your internet access is not censored, you should consider installing the Snowflake extension to help users in censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours. I think this explanation should say more clearly that it's directly associated with Tor and lets users for whom Tor is blocked access the Tor network. And maybe there would also need to be a mention that it may use bandwidth?

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 16:43:38 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 16:43:38 +00:00

Hmm, good callout.

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 16:46:36 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 16:46:36 +00:00

We could add the words in bold text to address some of your points:

Snowflake is a system from the Tor project to defeat internet censorship. People who are censored can use Snowflake to access the internet through the Tor network. Their connection goes through Snowflake proxies, which are run by volunteers. If your internet access is not censored, you should consider installing the Snowflake extension to help users in censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours.

We could add the words in bold text to address some of your points: > Snowflake is a system **from the Tor project** to defeat internet censorship. People who are censored can use Snowflake to access the internet **through the Tor network.** Their connection goes through Snowflake proxies, which are run by volunteers. If your internet access is not censored, you should consider installing the Snowflake extension to help users in censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours.

jonah reviewed 2019-07-21 17:10:31 +00:00

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jonah commented

2019-07-21 17:10:31 +00:00

How about:

Snowflake is a system from the Tor Project to help people with censored connections access the internet via the Tor network. If you have an unsensored connection, running this extension volunteers your connection to be used as a Snowflake proxy to help users on censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours. For other users, this extension will not add privacy or uncensor connections on its own, you should use the Tor Browser instead.

How about: > Snowflake is a system from the Tor Project to help people with censored connections access the internet via the Tor network. If you have an unsensored connection, running this extension volunteers your connection to be used as a Snowflake proxy to help users on censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours. For other users, this extension will not add privacy or uncensor connections on its own, you should use the [Tor Browser](https://www.torproject.org/) instead.

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 17:12:05 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 17:12:05 +00:00

From the Tor project list post, it's called out that Snowflake proxies are "short-lived" but I can't seem to find any clear documentation regarding bandwidth...

From the [Tor project list post](https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-January/010310.html), it's called out that Snowflake proxies are "short-lived" but I can't seem to find any clear documentation regarding bandwidth...

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 17:24:47 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 17:24:47 +00:00

How about this?

Snowflake is a system from the Tor project to defeat internet censorship. People who are censored can use Snowflake to access the internet through the Tor network. Their connection goes through Snowflake proxies, which are run by volunteers. If your internet access is not censored, you should consider installing the Snowflake extension to help users in censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours. Also keep in mind that while Snowflake proxies are short-lived, they do use bandwidth.

How about this? > Snowflake is a system **from the Tor project** to defeat internet censorship. People who are censored can use Snowflake to access the internet **through the Tor network**. Their connection goes through Snowflake proxies, which are run by volunteers. If your internet access is not censored, you should consider installing the Snowflake extension to help users in censored networks. There is no need to worry about which websites people are accessing through your proxy. Their visible browsing IP address will match their Tor exit node, not yours. **Also keep in mind that while Snowflake proxies are short-lived, they do use bandwidth.**

Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 18:00:53 +00:00

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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 18:00:52 +00:00

I think it's more of to access the Tor network through censorship rather than the internet, so the quotes are misleading.

Also keep in mind that while Snowflake proxies are short-lived, they do use bandwidth.

I think we have a confusion of point of view here. From client point of view it's short-lived connection and may not use that much bandwidth, but what is there to prevent the same host from being consecutively proxying traffic from different user?

I think it's more of to access the Tor network through censorship rather than the internet, so the quotes are misleading. > Also keep in mind that while Snowflake proxies are short-lived, they do use bandwidth. I think we have a confusion of point of view here. From client point of view it's short-lived connection and may not use that much bandwidth, but what is there to prevent the same host from being consecutively proxying traffic from different user?

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 18:19:29 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 18:19:29 +00:00

but what is there to prevent the same host from being consecutively proxying traffic from different user?

Ah yeah, good point; I assume nothing would prevent that so using "short-lived" in this context is also misleading..

> but what is there to prevent the same host from being consecutively proxying traffic from different user? Ah yeah, good point; I assume nothing would prevent that so using "short-lived" in this context is also misleading..

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2019-07-21 19:19:16 +00:00

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nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) commented

2019-07-21 19:19:15 +00:00

Sync'd on Riot and will update the description to:

Snowflake is a new pluggable transport from the Tor Project. If you have an uncensored connection, running this extension volunteers your connection to be used as a Snowflake proxy to help users unable to connect to the Tor network. Your IP will not be visible to the sites users visit using your proxy, as this extension will not make you an exit node. If your access to the Tor network is being blocked, this extension will not assist you, and you should use the Tor Browser instead.

[Sync'd on Riot](https://matrix.to/#/!MGdJmTKoklgdThFeeL:privacytools.io/$156373647423625TgrcU:privacytools.io?via=privacytools.io&via=matrix.org) and will update the description to: > Snowflake is a new pluggable transport from the Tor Project. If you have an uncensored connection, running this extension volunteers your connection to be used as a Snowflake proxy to help users unable to connect to the Tor network. Your IP will not be visible to the sites users visit using your proxy, as this extension will not make you an exit node. If your access to the Tor network is being blocked, this extension will not assist you, and you should use the Tor Browser instead.