✨ Feature Suggestion | Add Voat Subverse #711
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Description: Add Voat Subverse for discussion.
Why: Voat is a free software privacy respecting Reddit alternative. It is important for privacy communities to support private alternatives.
Does it federate? There is also https://tildes.net/ with no plans for federation and is currently invite-only.
@Mikaela I wouldn't be the one to ask, if you have any questions I would recommend posting in /v/help. If you find anything, please reply as I would be interested to know.
Sorry if this wasn't the response you were looking for.
I would also like to note that next-to-zero decentralized social networks are easy to use.
Even less have users, and even less are popular. Voat, is very easy to use and open-source.
Voat is a fairly popular site: https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/voat.co/
Why not use instead Mastodon?
I think they are wery different, Mastodon is a federated Twitter/TweetDeck, while Voat is a OSS Reddit clone.
Voat is social media for neo-nazis and pizzagate conspiracy theorists.
All of these social networks are like that. Regardless of being decentralized/federated/centralized. If free speech is allowed, "hate" speech will be present.
CloudFlare site - must reject
Voat is jailed in the privacy-hostile walled-garden of CloudFlare. This makes Voat unsuitable for privacy proponents. In fact, this project should fundamentally reject any product or service that has ties to CloudFlare.
What is CloudFlare (for the uninitiated)
CloudFlare is a vigilante extremist organization who takes the decentralized web and centralizes it under one corporate power that controls the worlds largest walled-garden. A very large portion of the web (10%+) that was once freely open to all is now controlled and monitored by one central authority who decides for everyone who can see what web content. This does serious damage to net neutrality, privacy, and has immediate serious consequences:
The damage to anonymity helps spy orgs conduct illegal surveillance. The consequential access inequality constitutes a network neutrality abuse. Access equality is central to net neutrality.
@libBletchley you may want to check the DNS on PrivacyTools.io then.
@danarel
Oh shit that's really despicable. I couldn't tell from the
dig
output but there is indeed acf-ray
in the headers.If they need performance they could be using netlify. CF is a disgusting choice for this project.
@BurungHantu1605 used it for HTTPS but GH pages now support HTTPS without CF.
It does support HTTPS now but only on the main domain. So you can’t do HTTPS with www and without. It’s one or the other.
Is there an onion service? That wouldn't require HTTPS.
For the surface web combining GH with Netlify will give HTTPS but I'm not sure if that solves your issue.
Tildes is open source, though the project’s focus is just not on federation.
not entirely true, though it seems to be devolving even more as of late - as for pizzagate, look into that deeper than what you read or watch on more mainstream sites/news media - at its core it was never really about a pizza joint in DC with secret tunnels, it's about the larger pedo rings operating globally, especially those with ties to government and this is exactly why the mainstream media downplayed it and applied that dirty word, "conspiracy", which was made dirty by the CIA when people started digging too deep after the Dealey Plaza incident
there are (or at least were) a small number of very smart and very well educated people on Voat (especially in politically sensitive historical topis) who presented many facts and talked about subjects that they couldn't talk about elsewhere (many were reddit refugees)
also i'm not sure the code is open - maybe someone can correct if i'm wrong - i know it was developed with Microsoft tools
it seems here that the community has decided that they would not like to add voat, so im closing the issue.
Yes, and I also see a conflict between PTIO and Voat that I described at https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/pull/930#discussion_r283827464