Matrix/riot #220

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opened 2017-05-11 15:12:06 +00:00 by driminicus · 6 comments
driminicus commented 2017-05-11 15:12:06 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I think the matrix federated protocol with riot as an IM messaging client is certainly worth mentioning.

Advantage over signal and wire would be that it's federated, while it has a (completely voluntary) identity server, which helps with contact discovery, which is an issue with XMPP.

I self-host a matrix server, and I successfully got quite a few people to create a matrix account and I haven't had many complaints (other than my server going down 😢 )

In my opinion the riot client works quite well, and the end to end crypto is awesome, though it's still a little rough around the edges.

Plus the matrix/irc bridges are cool.

I think the [matrix](https://www.matrix.org/) federated protocol with [riot](https://riot.im) as an IM messaging client is certainly worth mentioning. Advantage over signal and wire would be that it's federated, while it has a (completely voluntary) identity server, which helps with contact discovery, which is an issue with XMPP. I self-host a matrix server, and I successfully got quite a few people to create a matrix account and I haven't had many complaints (other than my server going down :cry: ) In my opinion the riot client works quite well, and the end to end crypto is awesome, though it's still a little rough around the edges. Plus the matrix/irc bridges are cool.
ghost commented 2017-05-12 16:17:13 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Agreed with you, even though encryption is not enabled by default (cmon its just two clicks to enable), Riot is awesome plus it doesn't necessarily have a lifespan since anyone who cares can set up a server for it.

Agreed with you, even though encryption is not enabled by default (cmon its just two clicks to enable), Riot is awesome plus it doesn't necessarily have a lifespan since anyone who cares can set up a server for it.
driminicus commented 2017-05-14 00:39:06 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

The plan is to enable end to end encryption on all private rooms by default, but the encryption is currently still in beta (though I have had no trouble with losing any data) AFAIK as soon as the megolm encryption is considered stable it'll be on by default.

Obviously all client-server and server-server communication is TLS encrypted anyway, but that means your messages are in plaintext on the server. This may not be that big of a deal if you host your own server, though.

The plan is to enable end to end encryption on all private rooms by default, but the encryption is currently still in beta (though I have had no trouble with losing any data) AFAIK as soon as the megolm encryption is considered stable it'll be on by default. Obviously all client-server and server-server communication is TLS encrypted anyway, but that means your messages are in plaintext on the server. This may not be that big of a deal if you host your own server, though.
jospoortvliet commented 2017-06-11 18:35:15 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

A big +1 from me on this, Matrix is very nice and becoming a very serious solution.

A big +1 from me on this, Matrix is very nice and becoming a very serious solution.
driminicus commented 2017-06-14 12:44:19 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Happy you agree, @jospoortvliet any chance if matrix integrating with nextcloud at some point? Nextcloud seems to have gone the xmpp route, though.

edit: I guess this is probably not the appropriate location for this discussion, sorry :)

Happy you agree, @jospoortvliet any chance if matrix integrating with nextcloud at some point? Nextcloud seems to have gone the xmpp route, though. edit: I guess this is probably not the appropriate location for this discussion, sorry :)
jospoortvliet commented 2017-06-19 09:16:00 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

@driminicus it might not be the appropriate place for a discussion but let me very subtly link to the discussion at https://twitter.com/Nextclouders/status/873256630011482112 😹

@driminicus it might not be the appropriate place for a discussion but let me very subtly link to the discussion at https://twitter.com/Nextclouders/status/873256630011482112 :joy_cat:
Kcchouette commented 2018-12-19 09:27:10 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Riot.im is now on the website, you can close this issue @driminicus @Shifterovich @privacytoolsIO

Riot.im is now on the website, you can close this issue @driminicus @Shifterovich @privacytoolsIO
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