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2020-11-19T19:49:57Z

privacytoolsnl commented

2020-11-19 19:49:57 +00:00

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https://forum.privacytools.io/t/green-hosting-and-privacytools/4688/3

## Description https://forum.privacytools.io/t/green-hosting-and-privacytools/4688/3

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lynn-stephenson commented

2020-11-20 04:41:00 +00:00

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We do not have any interest of recommending environmentalist solutions, unless they are also privacy respecting.

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ph00lt0 commented

2020-11-20 08:39:26 +00:00

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In that sense actually greenhost.net does both!

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dngray commented

2020-11-22 09:29:18 +00:00

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I had a look at their Privacy Policy https://greenhost.net/legal/privacy-policy/

I liked that it was fairly clear. They also seem fairly active within Privacy activism https://greenhost.net/privacy/

I had a look at their Privacy Policy https://greenhost.net/legal/privacy-policy/ I liked that it was fairly clear. They also seem fairly active within Privacy activism https://greenhost.net/privacy/

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ghost commented

2021-05-28 14:54:29 +00:00

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Green hosting is only viable in Europe and the USA.
There are many areas in the world where forests are cut down and wetlands are destroyed to build solar power plants. It's a reversal of ends and means.

Encouraging green hosting means imposing European values on the rest of the world. It is imperialism.

Green hosting is only viable in Europe and the USA. There are many areas in the world where forests are cut down and wetlands are destroyed to build solar power plants. It's a reversal of ends and means. Encouraging green hosting means imposing European values on the rest of the world. It is imperialism.

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Dyrimon commented

2021-05-29 12:15:14 +00:00

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Green hosting is only viable in Europe and the USA.

How do you mean? Users of other continent can't use the service?

There are many areas in the world where forests are cut down and wetlands are destroyed to build solar power plants. It's a reversal of ends and means.

Irrelevant to the privacy cause.

Encouraging green hosting means imposing European values on the rest of the world. It is imperialism.

Begging your pardon, but that's the stupidest excuse I've ever seen against imperialism. Nobody is screaming Americanism or Capitalism when the service is from US, so why is there a problem if the service is from Europe? You're not forced to use their service. No one is imposing anything.

> Green hosting is only viable in Europe and the USA. How do you mean? Users of other continent can't use the service? > There are many areas in the world where forests are cut down and wetlands are destroyed to build solar power plants. It's a reversal of ends and means. Irrelevant to the privacy cause. > Encouraging green hosting means imposing European values on the rest of the world. It is imperialism. Begging your pardon, but that's the stupidest excuse I've ever seen against imperialism. Nobody is screaming Americanism or Capitalism when the service is from US, so why is there a problem if the service is from Europe? You're not forced to use their service. No one is imposing anything.

gary-host-laptop commented

2021-05-29 18:42:14 +00:00

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@Dyrimon Even though I don't completely agree with the other comment, because whatever, it is not like it makes a significant change against imperialism to use this or not.

But GreenHosting being based in Europe means it is imposing something. It is not coincidence you will see Europe first to enter the market of green energy, because they have been and still are living in the back of Latin American, African and Asian people. Imposing something does not always mean using force, why do you think English language or anglocentric culture is so ubiquitous nowadays? Because we all agree is the best language to use? Because theirs is the most interesting culture? Because they are imposing imperialism through market dominance, this is exactly how Google works, for example.

We are, at least, not entirely interested in finding the best provider when it comes to combat imperialism but which is the most private, plus, if we can find a provider that is green friendly. They fulfill two of those goals, and we will probably not see any provider giving the same services in any third world country any time soon and even if we do I don't see a reason to not list both of them, since you are not going to solve capitalism by buying the right product anyway.

I will not continue this conversation since I don't want to derail the importance of the topic, which is: is GreenHosting private?

@Dyrimon Even though I don't completely agree with the other comment, because whatever, it is not like it makes a significant change against imperialism to use this or not. But GreenHosting being based in Europe means it is imposing something. It is not coincidence you will see Europe first to enter the market of green energy, because they have been and still are living in the back of Latin American, African and Asian people. Imposing something does not always mean using force, why do you think English language or anglocentric culture is so ubiquitous nowadays? Because we all agree is the best language to use? Because theirs is the most interesting culture? Because they are imposing imperialism through market dominance, this is exactly how Google works, for example. We are, at least, not entirely interested in finding the best provider when it comes to combat imperialism but which is the most private, plus, if we can find a provider that is green friendly. They fulfill two of those goals, and we will probably not see any provider giving the same services in any third world country any time soon and even if we do I don't see a reason to not list both of them, since you are not going to solve capitalism by buying the right product anyway. I will not continue this conversation since I don't want to derail the importance of the topic, which is: is GreenHosting private?

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Reference: privacyguides/privacytools.io#2132