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Updated Cloudflare DNS logging policy tooltip and link #2018

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jackmchou merged 3 commits from issue-2016 into master 2020-08-23 09:57:35 +00:00
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jackmchou commented 2020-08-12 12:21:17 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Resolves: #2016

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jonah reviewed 2020-08-12 19:54:14 +00:00
_includes/sections/dns.html
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<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title='"We will collect limited DNS query data that is sent to the resolvers. This data does not contain user IP addresses or any other personally identifiable information, and the bulk of the data is only stored for 24 hours."' href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/privacy-policy/">Some</a></td>
<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title="Cloudflare collects and stores only the limited DNS query data that is sent to the 1.1.1.1 resolver. The 1.1.1.1 resolver service does not log personal data, and the bulk of the limited non-personally identifiable query data is only stored for 25 hours." href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver/">Some</a></td>
<td>DoH, DoT</td>
<td>Yes</td>
jonah commented 2020-08-12 19:54:14 +00:00

This does not appear to be an exact quote from the page linked, and therefore shouldn't be in quotes.

This does not appear to be an exact quote from the page linked, and therefore shouldn't be in quotes.
jackmchou (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-08-12 20:14:08 +00:00
_includes/sections/dns.html
@ -171,3 +165,3 @@
<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title='"We will collect limited DNS query data that is sent to the resolvers. This data does not contain user IP addresses or any other personally identifiable information, and the bulk of the data is only stored for 24 hours."' href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/privacy-policy/">Some</a></td>
<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title="Cloudflare collects and stores only the limited DNS query data that is sent to the 1.1.1.1 resolver. The 1.1.1.1 resolver service does not log personal data, and the bulk of the limited non-personally identifiable query data is only stored for 25 hours." href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver/">Some</a></td>
<td>DoH, DoT</td>
<td>Yes</td>
jackmchou (Migrated from github.com) commented 2020-08-12 20:14:08 +00:00

Fixed!

Fixed!
jackmchou (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-08-12 20:53:10 +00:00
_includes/sections/dns.html
@ -171,3 +165,3 @@
<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title='"We will collect limited DNS query data that is sent to the resolvers. This data does not contain user IP addresses or any other personally identifiable information, and the bulk of the data is only stored for 24 hours."' href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/privacy-policy/">Some</a></td>
<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title="Cloudflare collects and stores only the limited DNS query data that is sent to the 1.1.1.1 resolver. The 1.1.1.1 resolver service does not log personal data, and the bulk of the limited non-personally identifiable query data is only stored for 25 hours." href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver/">Some</a></td>
<td>DoH, DoT</td>
<td>Yes</td>
jackmchou (Migrated from github.com) commented 2020-08-12 20:53:10 +00:00

Squashed the 2nd commit, hope that's okay and I did it correctly. 😅

Squashed the 2nd commit, hope that's okay and I did it correctly. 😅
jonah reviewed 2020-08-14 16:18:08 +00:00
_includes/sections/dns.html
@ -171,3 +165,3 @@
<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title='"We will collect limited DNS query data that is sent to the resolvers. This data does not contain user IP addresses or any other personally identifiable information, and the bulk of the data is only stored for 24 hours."' href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/privacy-policy/">Some</a></td>
<td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title="Cloudflare collects and stores only the limited DNS query data that is sent to the 1.1.1.1 resolver. The 1.1.1.1 resolver service does not log personal data, and the bulk of the limited non-personally identifiable query data is only stored for 25 hours." href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver/">Some</a></td>
<td>DoH, DoT</td>
<td>Yes</td>
jonah commented 2020-08-14 16:18:08 +00:00

Giving this more thought I'd probably go with this to avoid we/our in non-quotes:

        <td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title="Cloudflare collects and stores only the limited DNS query data that is sent to the 1.1.1.1 resolver. The 1.1.1.1 resolver service does not log personal data, and the bulk of the limited non-personally identifiable query data is only stored for 25 hours." href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver/">Some</a></td>
Giving this more thought I'd probably go with this to avoid we/our in non-quotes: ```suggestion <td><a data-toggle="tooltip" data-placement="bottom" data-original-title="Cloudflare collects and stores only the limited DNS query data that is sent to the 1.1.1.1 resolver. The 1.1.1.1 resolver service does not log personal data, and the bulk of the limited non-personally identifiable query data is only stored for 25 hours." href="https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/privacy/public-dns-resolver/">Some</a></td> ```
dngray commented 2020-08-15 06:42:16 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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I think while we're doing this we should update:

I think we should "Cloudflare is one of the world's largest networks, and a problem considering anonymity and decentralization.

I don't really like the way that sounds as it doesn't say what the problem is. "problem considering anonymity and decentralization" sounds like a non-english speaker wrote it.

I seemed to remember removing that Crimeflare link because of low quality. It seems overly-concern trolling with a lot of irrelevant information. The memes do not give it authenticity.

In fact I wrote something about it here https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/pull/1804

I think while we're doing this we should update: > I think we should "Cloudflare is one of the world's largest networks, and a problem considering anonymity and decentralization. I don't really like the way that sounds as it doesn't say what the problem is. "problem considering anonymity and decentralization" sounds like a non-english speaker wrote it. I seemed to remember removing that Crimeflare link because of low quality. It seems overly-concern trolling with a lot of irrelevant information. The memes do not give it authenticity. In fact I wrote something about it here https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/pull/1804
dngray commented 2020-08-15 06:49:19 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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It conflates a number of issues too:

Cloudflare usually blocks Tor or makes it hard for Tor users to access the website or content. Tor is not only for criminals. It is important for many people and everyone has the right on privacy.

for example, that's site owners using authoritative DNS, or CloudFlare proxy in front of their site and have either excessive rules or have "I am under attack" mode permanently enabled. That is the site owner's fault.

It conflates a number of issues too: > Cloudflare usually blocks Tor or makes it hard for Tor users to access the website or content. Tor is not only for criminals. It is important for many people and everyone has the right on privacy. for example, that's site owners using authoritative DNS, or CloudFlare proxy in front of their site and have either excessive rules or have "I am under attack" mode permanently enabled. That is the site owner's fault.
dngray commented 2020-08-15 06:54:27 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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While we're at it I'm going to suggest removing that warning next to Quad9 too:

Founders include the Global Cyber Alliance, composed of the City of London Police and Manhattan District Attorney's Office.

If you want anonymity, you use anonymity tech (eg. Tor) and don't concern yourself with who is running the service. Additionally it's not entirely accurate and paints the service in bad light:

Quad9 is a nonprofit organization supported by IBM, Packet Clearing House (PCH), Global Cyber Alliance (GCA), and many other cybersecurity organizations for the purpose of operating a privacy-and-security-centric public DNS resolver.

Its main differentiator from other open DNS resolvers is that it automatically blocks domains known to be associated with malicious activity,[3][4] and does not log the IP address of its users that sent queries to it.[5][6]

https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2018/07/a-deeper-dive-into-public-dns-resolver-quad9/ provides more details on how it works.

While we're at it I'm going to suggest removing that warning next to Quad9 too: > Founders include the Global Cyber Alliance, composed of the City of London Police and Manhattan District Attorney's Office. If you want anonymity, you use anonymity tech (eg. Tor) and don't concern yourself with who is running the service. Additionally it's not entirely accurate and paints the service in bad light: > Quad9 is a nonprofit organization supported by IBM, Packet Clearing House (PCH), Global Cyber Alliance (GCA), and many other cybersecurity organizations for the purpose of operating a privacy-and-security-centric public DNS resolver. > Its main differentiator from other open DNS resolvers is that it automatically blocks domains known to be associated with malicious activity,[3][4] and does not log the IP address of its users that sent queries to it.[5][6] https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2018/07/a-deeper-dive-into-public-dns-resolver-quad9/ provides more details on how it works.
dngray (Migrated from github.com) approved these changes 2020-08-23 06:01:57 +00:00
freddy-m (Migrated from github.com) approved these changes 2020-08-23 07:21:34 +00:00
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