✨ Feature Suggestion | Search Engine Criteria #1881

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2020-05-05T06:32:45Z

nitrohorse commented

2020-05-05 06:32:45 +00:00

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Description

Before making further additions or promotions to the search engines page, let's create some criteria. It'll make additions and removals a much simpler process.

Criteria Ideas:

Security to a specific level (e.g. SSL Labs score, Mozilla Observatory score at a specific level or higher)
No IP address logging (or with limited retention to some level)
No fingerprintable user data shared with search partners or advertisers (or limited to some level)
Censorship not allowed (or allowed?)
Jurisidiction
Operated for at least some period of time
No 3rd-party trackers/cookies
Supports disabled JavaScript (HTML only support)
Supports POST requests via the UI
Tor/VPN friendly to some level (limited/no CAPTCHAs)

Bonus Criteria:

Anonymous proxy support (e.g. similar to MetaGer and StartPage)
Informal collective (e.g. LibreHosters network), Non-Profit status
Hosts onion service

Issues on hold:

## Description Before making further additions or promotions to the [search engines page](https://www.privacytools.io/providers/search-engines/), let's create some criteria. It'll make additions and removals a much simpler process. ### Criteria Ideas: - Security to a specific level (e.g. [SSL Labs score](https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/), [Mozilla Observatory score](https://observatory.mozilla.org/) at a specific level or higher) - No IP address logging (or with limited retention to some level) - No fingerprintable user data shared with search partners or advertisers (or limited to some level) - Censorship not allowed (or allowed?) - Jurisidiction - Operated for at least some period of time - No 3rd-party trackers/cookies - Supports disabled JavaScript (HTML only support) - Supports [POST requests](https://support.startpage.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/747/0/post-versus-get) via the UI - Tor/VPN friendly to some level (limited/no CAPTCHAs) ### Bonus Criteria: - Anonymous proxy support (e.g. similar to MetaGer and StartPage) - Informal collective (e.g. LibreHosters network), Non-Profit status - Hosts onion service ### Issues on hold: - https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1865 - https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1584 - https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/1932

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blacklight447 commented

2020-05-05 07:15:20 +00:00

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this would be a good first step for making the requirements more strict.

freddy-m commented

2020-05-05 07:20:15 +00:00

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This is a brief mock-up to see what it could look like.

Jurisdiction

Operating outside the USA or other Five Eyes countries?

Technology

Tor/VPN friendly to some level (limited/no CAPTCHAs)
Supports disabled JavaScript (HTML only support)
Supports POST requests via the UI
Hosts onion service

Privacy

No IP address logging (or with limited retention to some level)
No fingerprintable user data shared with search partners or advertisers (or limited to some level)
Anonymous proxy support (e.g. similar to MetaGer and StartPage)

Security

Security to a specific level (e.g. SSL Labs score, Mozilla Observatory score at a specific level or higher)

Trust

Public-facing leadership or ownership.
Operated for at least some period of time

Marketing

Must self host analytics (no Google Analytics etc). The provider's site must also comply with DNT (Do Not Track) for those users who want to opt-out.
Informal collective (e.g. LibreHosters network), Non-Profit status

This is a brief mock-up to see what it could look like. **Jurisdiction** - Operating outside the USA or other Five Eyes countries? **Technology** - Tor/VPN friendly to some level (limited/no CAPTCHAs) - Supports disabled JavaScript (HTML only support) - Supports POST requests via the UI - Hosts onion service **Privacy** - No IP address logging (or with limited retention to some level) - No fingerprintable user data shared with search partners or advertisers (or limited to some level) - Anonymous proxy support (e.g. similar to MetaGer and StartPage) **Security** - Security to a specific level (e.g. SSL Labs score, Mozilla Observatory score at a specific level or higher) **Trust** - Public-facing leadership or ownership. - Operated for at least some period of time **Marketing** - Must self host analytics (no Google Analytics etc). The provider's site must also comply with DNT (Do Not Track) for those users who want to opt-out. - Informal collective (e.g. LibreHosters network), Non-Profit status

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danarel commented

2020-05-05 17:28:11 +00:00

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* No fingerprintable user data shared with search partners or advertisers (or limited to some level)

We may want to add as well that we don't want them using other privacy policies with this. Some search engines state in their Privacy Policy that the data they send to these ad services fall under their privacy policy instead.

Which seems like saying "we don't track your data, but they do."

> * No fingerprintable user data shared with search partners or advertisers (or limited to some level) We may want to add as well that we don't want them using other privacy policies with this. Some search engines state in their Privacy Policy that the data they send to these ad services fall under their privacy policy instead. Which seems like saying "we don't track your data, but they do."

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freddy-m commented

2020-07-17 11:17:54 +00:00

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We could also link searchengine.party somewhere on the page.

We could also link [searchengine.party](https://searchengine.party/) somewhere on the page.

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Reference: privacyguides/privacytools.io#1881