Adding Wire as EU-based encrypted Messenger #186

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2017-02-23T15:30:48Z

cityrolr commented

2017-02-23 15:30:48 +00:00

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Hi guys,
I have seen your website and it gives a great overview about all the tools to make life a bit more private. 👍🏻
But I was wondering about people should not use a US-based service but recommending Signal. What about adding Wire? It offers fully E2EE, audio- and videocalls, is open source, Swiss based and development center in Berlin, Germany with servers in the EU and works on iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, Linux and Web.
Disclaimer: I work at Wire. More about how we respect and protect users privacy: www.wire.com/privacy

Hi guys, I have seen your website and it gives a great overview about all the tools to make life a bit more private. 👍🏻 But I was wondering about people should not use a US-based service but recommending Signal. What about adding Wire? It offers fully E2EE, audio- and videocalls, is open source, Swiss based and development center in Berlin, Germany with servers in the EU and works on iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, Linux and Web. Disclaimer: I work at Wire. More about how we respect and protect users privacy: www.wire.com/privacy

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ghost commented

2017-02-23 15:51:22 +00:00

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+1 for the disclosure (and because Wire is pretty cool).

qazip commented

2017-03-04 11:02:45 +00:00

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So? Is wire going to be added or not? There was a discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/5vr10k/adding_wire_as_eubased_encrypted_messenger/ and the consensus is that Wire should be added.

ghost commented

2017-03-06 16:49:07 +00:00

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Create a PR.

mat1th commented

2017-03-06 19:10:40 +00:00

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@Shifterovich Hi, I've created a PR to add Wire to the list. Could you review it?

mat1th commented

2017-04-08 11:43:18 +00:00

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Wire is now on the site. So this issue could be closed;

jancborchardt commented

2017-08-09 08:34:56 +00:00

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@cityr0ler since you say it’s open source, did the Wire server get fully open-sourced too? Last I checked and talked to ppl from Wire it wasn’t completely open source yet, and also https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server#wire-server says (emphasis mine):

This repository contains the source code for the Wire server. At the moment it contains a subset of the libraries and services used by Wire. We will keep releasing more libraries and services over time as we finish cleaning up and documenting the source code. Our goal is to publish the source code of the entire Wire server.

@Shifterovich @kewde especially since on the website you specifically advise against using apps like Telegram (which does the same thing: apps »open source« and server closed), this is important to know. The point being that if the service shuts down, Wire becomes useless.

Disclaimer also from me: I work on Nextcloud and we operate in a similar field (collaboration & communication). But especially since that’s the reason we forked from Owncloud we care a lot about open source and 100% doing it (AGPLv3+): https://github.com/nextcloud/server/

@cityr0ler since you say it’s open source, did the Wire server get fully open-sourced too? Last I checked and talked to ppl from Wire it wasn’t completely open source yet, and also https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server#wire-server says (emphasis mine): > This repository contains the source code for the Wire server. **At the moment it contains a subset of the libraries and services used by Wire.** We will keep releasing more libraries and services over time as we finish cleaning up and documenting the source code. Our goal is to publish the source code of the entire Wire server. @Shifterovich @kewde especially since on the website you specifically advise against using apps like Telegram (which does the same thing: apps »open source« and server closed), this is important to know. The point being that if the service shuts down, Wire becomes useless. Disclaimer also from me: I work on [Nextcloud](https://nextcloud.com/) and we operate in a similar field (collaboration & communication). But especially since that’s the reason we forked from Owncloud we care a lot about open source and 100% doing it (AGPLv3+): https://github.com/nextcloud/server/

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ghost commented

2017-08-09 09:26:18 +00:00

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We discourage Telegram because of bad crypto.

jancborchardt commented

2017-08-09 19:54:42 +00:00

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Ok, that's beside the point though. ;) Wire is not fully open source (the crucial part is not) but privacytools.io advertises it as such.

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teller commented

2017-08-10 09:31:00 +00:00