Updates for File Sharing #1686

2020-02-03T04:29:48Z

lrq3000 commented

2020-02-03 04:29:48 +00:00

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Description

Resolves: #1684
Resolves: #1233
Resolves: #1692

~~Upgrade OnionShare as top 1 file sharing option~~
~~Demote Firefox Send to 2nd~~
Add warning on Firefox Send about logging
Add "or send" in OnionShare description to signal that there is a receiver mode too~
Add FramaDrop/LuFi
Extend description of Croc (requires no dependencies, similar to Magic-Wormhole per author):

Essentially it is the same as wormhole but it has no dependencies, you can just download it and run.

Change "Jabber server" to "XMPP server" in FreedomBox description.

Check List

I understand that by not opening an issue about a software/service/similar addition/removal, this pull request will be closed without merging.
I have read and understand the contributing guidelines.
The project is Free Libre and/or Open Source Software

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## Description Resolves: #1684 Resolves: #1233 Resolves: #1692 * ~~Upgrade OnionShare as top 1 file sharing option~~ * ~~Demote Firefox Send to 2nd~~ * Add warning on Firefox Send about logging * Add "or send" in OnionShare description to signal that there is a receiver mode too~ * Add FramaDrop/LuFi * Extend description of Croc (requires no dependencies, similar to Magic-Wormhole [per author](https://schollz.com/software/sending-a-file/)): > Essentially it is the same as wormhole but it has no dependencies, you can just download it and run. * Change "Jabber server" to "XMPP server" in FreedomBox description. #### Check List  - [x] I understand that by not opening an issue about a software/service/similar addition/removal, this pull request will be closed without merging. - [x] I have read and understand [the contributing guidelines](https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md). - [x] The project is [Free Libre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software) and/or [Open Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software) Software * Netlify preview for the mainly edited page: https://deploy-preview-1686--privacytools-io.netlify.com/software/file-sharing/ * Code repository of the project (if applicable):

blacklight447 (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-03 04:29:48 +00:00

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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-04 13:33:56 +00:00

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I am indifferent to this change, OnionShare requires installing Tor Browser and Firefox Send has logging. I still think it could be better to just sort them alphabetically.

lrq3000 commented

2020-02-05 02:48:00 +00:00

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Following the various voiced opinions, I removed the promotion of OnionShare as top tool. (I still think it would be better though).

I have instead refocused this PR to update the descriptions, warnings about logging, and add FramaDrop/LuFi.

Following the various voiced opinions, I removed the promotion of OnionShare as top tool. (I still think it would be better though). I have instead refocused this PR to update the descriptions, warnings about logging, and add FramaDrop/LuFi.

Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-07 21:33:33 +00:00

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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented

2020-02-07 21:31:06 +00:00

Something looks funny with the language here, but I cannot point what.

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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented

2020-02-07 21:33:18 +00:00

I agree putting it to worth mentioning, but I think there is a bit of confusion on what is a sofware and what a service as Firefox Send seems to be both (or can it be self-hosted?),

Also I think it would be better to link to some upstream source rather than back to us whenever possible.

I wonder if there would be some list of LuFI instances that could be used instead.

I agree putting it to worth mentioning, but I think there is a bit of confusion on what is a sofware and what a service as Firefox Send seems to be both (or can it be self-hosted?), Also I think it would be better to link to some upstream source rather than back to us whenever possible. I wonder if there would be some list of LuFI instances that could be used instead.

lrq3000 (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-08 06:09:18 +00:00

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lrq3000 (Migrated from github.com) commented

2020-02-08 06:09:18 +00:00

Ok I tried to simplify by changing to the following:

"OnionShare is an open-source tool that lets you securely and anonymously share a file of any size. It works by starting a web server accessible as a Tor onion service, with an unguessable URL that you can share with the recipients to download or send files."

Ok I tried to simplify by changing to the following: "OnionShare is an open-source tool that lets you securely and anonymously share a file of any size. It works by starting a web server accessible as a Tor onion service, with an unguessable URL that you can share with the recipients to download or send files."

lrq3000 (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-08 06:12:38 +00:00

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lrq3000 (Migrated from github.com) commented

2020-02-08 06:12:38 +00:00

Firefox Send and Lufi/Framadrop work the same, they both are instances and self-hostable opensource softwares.

I am not sure there are any other instances of both than the official ones that are linked in this PR. Lufi has a demo website but it is much more limited (100MB max filesize) and explicitly not meant for real usage, whereas Framadrop is the real instance, just like send.firefox.com is the real instance of Firefox Send.

Firefox Send and Lufi/Framadrop work the same, they both are instances and self-hostable opensource softwares. I am not sure there are any other instances of both than the official ones that are linked in this PR. Lufi has a [demo website](https://demo.lufi.io/) but it is much more limited (100MB max filesize) and explicitly not meant for real usage, whereas Framadrop is the real instance, just like send.firefox.com is the real instance of Firefox Send.

Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-10 16:57:14 +00:00

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Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) commented

2020-02-10 16:57:14 +00:00

There is at least https://upload.disroot.org/ which is why I know of Lufi and I think I have seen at least one other one, but I cannot find it.

Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) requested changes 2020-02-10 16:59:31 +00:00

Mikaela (Migrated from github.com) left a comment

https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1233#issuecomment-582211312

I am still unhappy at linking back to us instead of more authoritative source

> https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/1233#issuecomment-582211312 I am still unhappy at linking back to us instead of more authoritative source

nitrohorse commented

2020-02-14 07:31:43 +00:00

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Thanks for the PR! I think we could instead link to https://framasoft.org/en/cgu directly for the tooltip? But regardless the linked Issue includes this link so I’m fine either way.

nitrohorse (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-14 07:34:00 +00:00

lrq3000 commented

2020-02-14 18:55:00 +00:00

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Ok found an english version of their legal statement, I have now replaced the PTIO link by this one, thanks for reviewing!

Ok found an [english version](https://framasoft.org/en/cgu/) of their legal statement, I have now replaced the PTIO link by this one, thanks for reviewing!

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lrq3000 (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2020-02-14 18:56:20 +00:00

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lrq3000 (Migrated from github.com) commented

2020-02-14 18:56:20 +00:00

Still more limited (1GB max) than framasoft, but yes it would be nice to have a list of instances, but I did not find one.

Still more limited (1GB max) than framasoft, but yes it would be nice to have a list of instances, but I [did not find one](https://framacolibri.org/t/liste-dinstance-framasoft/6433).