More Darknet Mirrors (Tor, Freenet, ZeroNet) #139

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opened 2016-12-30 03:37:57 +00:00 by privacytoolsIO · 23 comments
privacytoolsIO commented 2016-12-30 03:37:57 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Hi Guys,

we already have a I2P mirror. Does someone have experience with Tor, Freenet and ZeroNet? It would be nice to mirror this GitHub repo in more darknets.

Help wanted! 👍

Hi Guys, we already have a I2P mirror. Does someone have experience with Tor, Freenet and ZeroNet? It would be nice to mirror this GitHub repo in more darknets. Help wanted! 👍
ghost commented 2016-12-30 20:05:09 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
Note: [fork for darkwebs](https://github.com/dark-mirror/privacytools.i2p)
ghost commented 2016-12-30 20:29:09 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I can try to take care of this.

I can try to take care of this.
ghost commented 2017-01-02 22:09:24 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Tor mirror set up.
I'm generating onion addresses.
Current one: privacygnk5vuzea.onion
https://gist.github.com/Shifterovich/191c330660f4d99809ad7fbb372d16b1

Tor mirror set up. I'm generating onion addresses. Current one: `privacygnk5vuzea.onion` https://gist.github.com/Shifterovich/191c330660f4d99809ad7fbb372d16b1
ghost commented 2017-01-03 18:33:20 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

@beardog108 has experience with ZeroNet.

@beardog108 has experience with ZeroNet.
ghost commented 2017-01-03 20:20:24 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Yep, i'm getting a ZeroNet mirror setup. Will post here & on the subreddit when Its up.

I will need people to help me seed.

Yep, i'm getting a ZeroNet mirror setup. Will post here & on the subreddit when Its up. I will need people to help me seed.
ghost commented 2017-01-03 20:56:17 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Currently generating a vanity address for the ZeroNet mirror.

Currently generating a vanity address for the ZeroNet mirror.
ghost commented 2017-01-03 22:26:50 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Alright, so i've got a fork up.

I couldn't get a vanity address to work for it, because for some reason it would not list the site in my client. I could probably get it to work by fooling around with it more, but i don't really feel like it.

You can access the site (assuming i'm still seeding) with your ZeroNet client & a browser here: http://127.0.0.1:43110/14gSEpfWfF5Go7u5y7UidZQCnGa6eSBYZ9/

Alright, so i've got a fork up. I couldn't get a vanity address to work for it, because for some reason it would not list the site in my client. I could probably get it to work by fooling around with it more, but i don't really feel like it. You can access the site (assuming i'm still seeding) with your ZeroNet client & a browser here: http://127.0.0.1:43110/14gSEpfWfF5Go7u5y7UidZQCnGa6eSBYZ9/
ghost commented 2017-01-03 22:28:04 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Next we should do Freenet & IPFS would be good too.

Next we should do Freenet & IPFS would be good too.
ghost commented 2017-01-03 23:27:01 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Corrected the ZeroNet site 'home' button, as it would take you to your ZeroNet router rather than the top of the page.

Corrected the ZeroNet site 'home' button, as it would take you to your ZeroNet router rather than the top of the page.
privacytoolsIO commented 2017-01-04 03:25:37 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
Hi guys, thank you both so much. I've added links on the website, subreddit and posted it to the zeronet subreddit already: https://www.reddit.com/r/zeronet/comments/5lwomw/privacytoolsio_is_now_available_on_zeronet_please/ _edit_ I2P subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/comments/5lwpi9/privacytoolsio_is_now_available_on_i2p_please/ onion subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/5lwpue/privacytoolsio_is_now_available_on_tor/
OverlordQ commented 2017-01-05 00:00:09 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

If you want a freenet mirror you'll need a stripped down version that doesn't rely on JS.

If you want a freenet mirror you'll need a stripped down version that doesn't rely on JS.
ghost commented 2017-01-05 15:15:31 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Which along with "no one uses Freenet" is an argument not to support Freenet :P
Jokes aside: I'm not sure whether it's possible to strip JS.

Which along with "no one uses Freenet" is an argument not to support Freenet :P Jokes aside: I'm not sure whether it's possible to strip JS.
chris-barry commented 2017-01-14 18:56:47 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Hey guys, I have one suggestion to make this lower friction for your users.

By default I2P does not know the mapping from privacytools.i2p -> wfewiqkdt5bvowfp3igmkaksjvcvwj7bag2smqpqyu5x4hges2qa.b32.i2p . If you make the link on your site:

" http://privacytools.i2p/?i2paddresshelper=?i2paddresshelper=wfewiqkdt5bvowfp3igmkaksjvcvwj7bag2smqpqyu5x4hges2qa.b32.i2p "

then a user won't have to go through the I2P jump servers. That special URL will tell the I2P router the mapping quicker.

Hey guys, I have one suggestion to make this lower friction for your users. By default I2P does not know the mapping from privacytools.i2p -> wfewiqkdt5bvowfp3igmkaksjvcvwj7bag2smqpqyu5x4hges2qa.b32.i2p . If you make the link on your site: " http://privacytools.i2p/?i2paddresshelper=?i2paddresshelper=wfewiqkdt5bvowfp3igmkaksjvcvwj7bag2smqpqyu5x4hges2qa.b32.i2p " then a user won't have to go through the I2P jump servers. That special URL will tell the I2P router the mapping quicker.
MuxZeroNet commented 2017-01-15 02:10:18 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Hi, the title of the ZeroNet mirror can be changed via the sidebar. Drag the 0 button to the left to see the sidebar.

Zcash.png was missing. It might be forgotten. Try adding this file and sign the site again.

The site is running out of size limit (10MB). You can define optional files so that these files will not be counted when ZeroNet is adding up file sizes. Don't worry, once an optional file is requested by browser, ZeroNet will download that file immediately. Open content.json with a text editor. After the modified key, add an optional key with a regular expression string bound to it.

"modified": 1483650296.648398,
"optional": "(fonts/.*)",

Another example can be found here.

Save all of your changes and sign the site.

Hi, the title of the ZeroNet mirror can be changed via the sidebar. Drag the `0` button to the left to see the sidebar. `Zcash.png` was missing. It might be forgotten. Try adding this file and sign the site again. The site is running out of size limit (10MB). You can define optional files so that these files will not be counted when ZeroNet is adding up file sizes. Don't worry, once an optional file is requested by browser, ZeroNet will download that file immediately. Open `content.json` with a text editor. After the `modified` key, add an `optional` key with a regular expression string bound to it. ```json "modified": 1483650296.648398, "optional": "(fonts/.*)", ``` Another example can be found [here](https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet/blob/master/src/Test/testdata/1TeSTvb4w2PWE81S2rEELgmX2GCCExQGT-original/content.json#L125). Save all of your changes and sign the site.
ghost commented 2017-01-15 10:27:57 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

The limit can be increased and Zcash.png is missing on privacytools.io too.

The limit can be increased and Zcash.png is missing on privacytools.io too.
Mikaela commented 2019-05-05 14:19:09 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

@beardog108 Are you still maintaining the Zeronet mirror? It seems to default to /classic, so I think it's a bit outdated.

@beardog108 Are you still maintaining the Zeronet mirror? It seems to default to /classic, so I think it's a bit outdated.
ghost commented 2019-05-05 14:31:39 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Since we now have an actual server, @JonahAragon and @BurungHantu1605 could set up all these mirrors?

Since we now have an actual server, @JonahAragon and @BurungHantu1605 could set up all these mirrors?

Probably yeah. We have Tor up, what other ones do we need? I’m not super familiar with darknets so I’m not sure what’s “in” right now.

Probably yeah. We have Tor up, what other ones do we need? I’m not super familiar with darknets so I’m not sure what’s “in” right now.
ghost commented 2019-05-05 15:36:39 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I2P and ZeroNet, in my opinion. Both are extremely simple to set up. I suggest using i2pd for hosting the I2P service. It's written in C, so it has a much lower overhead than the "official" Java I2P. Also you don't need all the Java I2P features to host a service.

I2P and ZeroNet, in my opinion. Both are extremely simple to set up. I suggest using i2pd for hosting the I2P service. It's written in C, so it has a much lower overhead than the "official" Java I2P. Also you don't need all the Java I2P features to host a service.
Mikaela commented 2019-05-05 15:58:27 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

From darknets I agree on I2P (even if I am not sure on I2Pd as I am having https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/1275), I guess ZeroNet is currently "in" and I would also like to see Yggdrasil (https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/685) even if it's more of a graynet and IPFS (https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/139#issuecomment-270243582) even if it currently has no darknet support.

EDIT: I2Pd apparently requires disabling IPv6 in i2pd.conf in order to work (https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/1275#issuecomment-489452326):

For now only way to resolve is disable ipv6 and leave ipv4 only. Anyway ipv6 support for now work bit incorrect and will be rewritten.

From darknets I agree on I2P (even if I am not sure on I2Pd as I am having https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/1275), I guess ZeroNet is currently "in" and I would also like to see [Yggdrasil](https://yggdrasil-network.github.io) (https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/685) even if it's more of a graynet and [IPFS](https://ipfs.io) (https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/139#issuecomment-270243582) even if it currently has no darknet support. EDIT: I2Pd apparently requires disabling IPv6 in i2pd.conf in order to work (https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues/1275#issuecomment-489452326): > For now only way to resolve is disable ipv6 and leave ipv4 only. Anyway ipv6 support for now work bit incorrect and will be rewritten.
TNTBOMBOM commented 2019-08-20 19:08:16 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
  • Zeronet: is not made to be anonymous protocol as someone might imagine similar to hidden services:

https://zeronet.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq/#is-zeronet-anonymous

  • Freenet: not well studied/matured like Tor and I2P, its decentralized data store (not newbies friendly) because it needs you to maintian storage capacity , its still poses danger of the copied unknown data when downloaded in the user space like malicious PDF or docs or so which freenet cant protect the user, written in java = SLOWNESS , You need to design the web to work with freenet because for e.g it doesnt allow JS ....

  • I2P-Java: Not good for Eepsites since it eats alot of resources , its still on the old days of monolithic design where everything put together whether you need it or not thats why you will find email client, built-in webserver (jetty) , Console comes with JS ...etc not good at least for eepsites.

  • I2Pd: Written in C++ , lighter than I2Pj , and comes as a router only. (needs Terminal/UI configurations in order to switch your preferences), Suitable for Eepsites.

- Zeronet: is not made to be anonymous protocol as someone might imagine similar to hidden services: https://zeronet.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq/#is-zeronet-anonymous - Freenet: not well studied/matured like Tor and I2P, its decentralized data store (not newbies friendly) because it needs you to maintian storage capacity , its still poses danger of the copied unknown data when downloaded in the user space like malicious PDF or docs or so which freenet cant protect the user, written in java = SLOWNESS , You need to design the web to work with freenet because for e.g it doesnt allow JS .... - I2P-Java: Not good for Eepsites since it eats alot of resources , its still on the old days of monolithic design where everything put together whether you need it or not thats why you will find email client, built-in webserver (jetty) , Console comes with JS ...etc not good at least for eepsites. - I2Pd: Written in C++ , lighter than I2Pj , and comes as a router only. (needs Terminal/UI configurations in order to switch your preferences), Suitable for Eepsites.
blacklight447 commented 2019-08-28 12:36:45 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I think we should now make the decision : do we want to spend time and resources on mirrors on lesser used and known anonymity networks.

I think we should now make the decision : do we want to spend time and resources on mirrors on lesser used and known anonymity networks.
1000i100 commented 2021-02-23 05:54:43 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I would like to publish some static website on to .onion, freenet, zeronet and why not some other. Is there some tools to help doing this from my CI ?
PS : where should i ask this in a better place than here ?

I would like to publish some static website on to .onion, freenet, zeronet and why not some other. Is there some tools to help doing this from my CI ? PS : where should i ask this in a better place than here ?
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